#camren analysis

[memezeira-fbi]

Ok...😌😏 camren camren camren

[mazes-and-the-madness]

IN BETWEEN: A Camren Analysis

I. Introduction

Nearly two years after she released her debut EP PRELUDE in 2021, Lauren Jauregui brings us a second one: In Between. She explores a variety of themes, some of which were also on PRELUDE (i.e. relationships, personal growth, her emotions). Without further ado, here’s my Camren analysis of In Between. As always, there’s the disclaimer that I’m not saying certain songs are definitely 100 percent about Camila: just that if they are, here’s a plausible explanation as to why. Oh, and Lauren, if you happen to come across this, just keep scrolling - absolutely nothing to see here.

II. Track-by-Track Analysis

1. In Between

Much like she did with Colors on PRELUDE, Lauren opens with a piece that’s part song, part spoken word. The title track In Between is about self-reflection, growing as a person, and ascending to one’s higher self. Lauren says, “love me in the in between… for me and the future we,” which could refer to becoming a better person for not only herself, but also a future romantic partner. “A dream that comes to tell me of the path that lies ahead // the things that I must leave behind instead of me for dead” could refer to leaving behind her immature past self, or a toxic partner, for her to reach her full potential. Lauren also mentions being “hung up on all the potential instead of the truth.” Even if the relationship was good at one point, this is no longer the case. It’s too far gone, and I hate to say it, but this could be about Camren. A key message of In Between is that no matter how much healing you’ve done, there’s always more self-discovery to do. When Lauren says, “I wade in the waters of the in between // until I’m born again, anew and renewed,” this is yet another parallel to PRELUDE, specifically the cover art where her face is ever so slightly lifted from the water. You know how the one thing everyone remembers from science class is, “The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell?” The English literature (and songwriting) equivalent is “water = rebirth.”

Other Thoughts:

Can we take a second to appreciate how “a dream that comes to tell me of the path that lies ahead // the things that I must leave behind instead of me for dead” is written in perfect iambic heptameter? If you have no idea what that means, don’t worry about it - just my inner English professor nerding out about Shakespearean poetic structures.

I know we’re all mad at Taylor Swift right now (and if you’re not, you should be), but “meet me in the in between” is giving “meet me at midnight.”

2. Em(oceans)

This song summarized in one sentence: Lauren feels too much, and wishes that she didn’t because her heightened sense of empathy enables people to take advantage of her. Her plea of “do you even notice? (are you even noticing all this emotion?)” could be directed at a partner, specifically Camila. The lyric “I never know what to say // so I try to push it away” is interesting because it alludes to communication issues from Lauren’s side. Communication has historically been a major obstacle for Camren, but the problems usually seem to stem from Camila’s side, as we know from Lauren songs like Expectations, Let Me Know, NADA, and the unreleased XO (I Don’t Miss You). Em(oceans) directly parallels other songs on the EP, specifically In Between and Trust Issues which also allude to other people using Lauren for their own ulterior motives.

3. All in My Feelings

This song reads very much like it takes place after Camila left Fifth Harmony (and by extension, Lauren). Camila now has more self-respect, and will no longer drop everything just because Lauren wants her to. Lauren expresses frustration that Camila is ignoring her, saying, “I just wanted to have sex // I’m too used to getting my way now.” By doing so, Lauren confirms what Camila writes about her in My Oh My (“they say he likes a good time,” “insatiable habits,” “he’s only here for one thing”). While Camila was previously quick to give in to Lauren’s demands, now she’s moved on and this is no longer the case. 

One interesting lyric is “this might be some past life shit, thе way you got me waitin' 'round for ya // to answer me whenever you do you ya, the upper hand was always mine.” The term “past life” has a clever double meaning: Lauren could be saying that she and Camila’s connection means they were together in a past life, OR that she’s now paying for how poorly she treated Camila all those years ago. Plus, we know from both of their songs that Lauren had the upper hand over Camila (She Loves Control, This Love, Señorita, Back to Me, Sorry). Lauren knows her past behavior is no longer going to fly, as she worries, “I'm afraid (oh, I'm afraid) of what it could mean when I've lost the control and I don't want it to mean anythin.' ” This is a good time to remember that Camila literally has a song called She Loves Control about how much of a control freak Lauren is. 

Lauren also says, “I like my wall up to keep from fallin', keep from fallin' // keep my walls up to keep from fallin', can't be fallin.' ” As I’ve stated in previous analyses, Lauren has written multiple songs about her struggles to open up to others (On Guard, Trust Issues), and Camila has written about desperately wanting her partner to do exactly that (Inside Out, In the Dark, Shameless, Boys Don't Cry). Lauren ends All in My Feelings with, “now he answers my texts as I'm writing a song about him // man, fuck that dude.” I don’t know about you all, but I laughed out loud when I first heard this. While she seems to be talking about a man, I wouldn’t be surprised if this song is actually about Camila, who has used he/him pronouns to describe Lauren in multiple songs (most notably, Havana and My Oh My.)

Other Thoughts: 

This song also parallels Em(oceans), specifically the idea of feeling too much and wanting to push these thoughts aside. This is most apparent with the lyrics “uh, trust me, I'd like to turn off my feelings // why the fuck am I feelin' any type of feeling?” and “anyway, anyway // usually I run away, run away.”

4. The One

Along with All in My Feelings and Always Love, The One is one of the most Camila-coded songs on the EP. The first verse is about an on-off relationship, apparent by the lyric “been here a few times, don't know what I'm fightin' for anymore.” Camren is THE on-off relationship, as we know from songs like This Love, Señorita, Back to Me, Sorry, and the unreleased Don’t Need This (I’ll stop there before listing out their entire discographies). In The One, Lauren questions her partner’s commitment to her, doubting that their actions match their words. She says, “you say that I’m the one, yeah yeah // so show me that you love me, yeah yeah.” Camila has written multiple songs about how Lauren is the only one for her (Anyone, Taxi, Easy, and arguably, First Man). Lauren is unimpressed by her partner’s wealth, saying, “don’t need your money, nah nah // that ain’t the way you keep me, my love.” No shade, just facts: as the most commercially successful member of Fifth Harmony, Camila is wealthier than Lauren, boasting a net worth of nearly $20 million vs. $4 million. Plus, Camila totally seems like the type to spoil her girlfriends with all her money. Lauren also questions, “why you gotta be insecure? ... I can’t really do this no more if every time I speak, you take it that I’m starting war.” Camila has bared her insecurities in several songs, including Easy, psychofreak, No Doubt, and Hasta Los Dientes. Until Camila can prove her commitment to Lauren, Lauren scoffs, “you can keep your money, yeah yeah // I’m doin’ just fine on my own.”

5. Trust Issues

At the request of @/missmebaby2017, I first analyzed this song when Lauren officially released it in March of this year. As I said back then, Trust Issues fits right in with other songs we've gotten from both girls about Lauren’s struggle to open up and the volatile, on-off nature of their relationship. As a result, it makes sense that Lauren would have “trust issues” before trying again with Camila, or starting a new relationship with anyone else. Now that we have the context of the full EP, we also see that Trust Issues fits thematically with songs like In Between, Em(oceans), and All in My Feelings.

6. Always Love

Lauren first performed this song in July 2019, shortly after Camila tweeted “for me, it was always going to be about love.” Always Love is about a relationship that’s long gone, but you still have love for the other person. Like All in My Feelings, this song could take place after Camila first left Fifth Harmony to pursue a solo career. The lyric “nobody talks about walking away when there’s still love // feeling so far after being so close is a mindfuck” would fit with this theory, since the Havana music video hints that this breakup was amicable. The on-off themes surface once again as Lauren reflects, “even though we didn’t work, it’s always love, always love // and even though we hurt each other more than once, it was love, always love.” As for “for all those times that we locked eyes // when I was yours and you were mine,” there are tons of compilations of “Camren staring at each other” on YouTube and TikTok. If “intense eye contact” was an Olympic sport, they’d take home more gold medals than Michael Phelps. But my favorite lyric in the whole song is, “you helped me grow into me, so I couldn’t help but change.” Camila was there for Lauren during a highly formative period in her life, her mid-to-late adolescent years in the band. Because of Camila, Lauren could no longer deny her sexuality and finally accepted who she really was, giving so many of her fans the courage to do the same (myself included). Overall, Always Love is very much giving “sapphic first love” vibes, and I will never not cry when listening to this song.

7. Wolves (ft. Ty Dolla $ign and RUSS)

This song details all three artists’ struggles in the music industry. Because there’s so much to unpack here, I’ll do more of a close reading, line-by-line analysis with this one.

“I've been runnin' with the wolves and I made it alright

Searchin' for my purpose and I'm learnin'

That we don't really get a lot of time

So I've got to go and get mine while I'm alive

Yeah, I'll be runnin' with the wolves all through the night”

Lauren started in the music industry at age 16. She’s now stayed in it for over ten years and done a lot of learning, growing up, and self-discovery in the process. The word choice of “wolves” is rather pointed; I mean, she doesn’t say “runnin’ with the butterflies.” The wolves are the cutthroat music industry executives who don’t care about the artists and will exploit, abuse, and overwork them to rake in as much money as possible. Remember Lauren’s advice for young people aspiring to a music career? “Read your contracts.” All artists have an expiration date, especially women and those from manufactured bands. As a member of both groups, Lauren has to work extra hard to make the most of her time in the spotlight for as long as the wolves allow her to do so.

Now we get to Ty Dolla $ign’s part:

“I lost so many to the system // only two ways out, dead or in prison” … “I know there’s gotta be a better way // out here runnin’ with the wolves tryna get away”

The music industry often exploits newly signed artists, especially those from working-class backgrounds. As I said in my analysis of Familia, this was the case for nearly all the Fifth Harmony girls. Simon Cowell was able to get them to sign those unjust, restrictive, inhumane recording contracts because he knew it was practically their only chance at a better life.

“clock tickin', plot and stop bitchin' (uh, oh yeah) // lot of fake stars, but I ain't 'bout to stop wishin' … every time my gut talks, I try to just listen ”

This lyric goes back to artists having a shelf life, and also includes some clever wordplay. We all know the idea of wishing on a star to make your dreams come true, but here Ty means that a lot of artists aren’t “real” with their fans because they’re heavily manufactured by the industry for (what else?) financial gain. Still, he refuses to let this stop him from making the most of this opportunity and striving to be an artist on his own terms.

“a millionaire on hamster wheels, I'm hopin' that this can't be real”

Even for those lucky artists that become super wealthy doing what they love, they may be trapped because of these brutal contracts. The word choice of “hamster wheels” is especially telling: artists are hustling all the time, but ultimately remain stuck in the same place.

That brings us to RUSS’ part:

“I'm scraped up, got some scratches, got some war wounds

I'm tryna reach the people as if I ain't 'bout to tour soon

I might need a therapist, maybe a support group

Yeah, I went from dorm rooms to courtrooms to board rooms, ah”

The industry hurts artists both mentally and physically. “Reach the people” could mean multiple things, such as artists helping others through their music or making them aware of the harsh behind-the-scenes reality. The mention of touring could refer to artists’ grueling schedules often determined by industry executives. Members of Fifth Harmony and One Direction have spoken about how the nonstop album-tour-album-tour cycles were harmful to their physical and mental health. For example, Niall Horan wasn’t even allowed to get much-needed knee surgery while he was on tour, and Ally Brooke writes in her 2020 memoir Finding Your Harmony that she only took one or two sick days during her entire time in the band (2012-2016). Today, artists are more comfortable speaking about mental health issues, like Demi Lovato and Miley Cyrus declaring that they’re no longer going to be touring as part of their careers. Finally, why is Lauren also singing the “dorm room” part when she’s never even been to college? I’m sure it’s not that deep; I just find it funny.

Now we’re back to Lauren with the outro.

“runnin', runnin', we keep runnin', runnin', runnin' ”

Although this line of work is by no means easy, all three artists stick with it and continue breaking their backs to keep the wolves happy. That is, until the wolves discard the artists for fresh meat, thus perpetuating the cycle of abuse and exploitation in the music industry.

III. Conclusion

Lauren, you’ve done it again. In Between is thoughtful, reflective, and self-aware, and you’ve proven your growth as an artist from not only your Fifth Harmony days, but also throughout your solo career. Though I loved both of your EPs, I have to ask: when are we getting your debut album? I know there’s probably all sorts of behind-the-scenes stuff we’ll never know; it just feels like we’ve been waiting forever. Either way, as long as I keep vibing with your music, I will continue to support you as an artist whatever you decide.

If anyone has questions or comments on anything I’ve said, my asks are always open (I trust you all to keep things civil). And if you haven’t already read my analyses for PRELUDE and Familia, what are you doing? No seriously, I’d encourage you to do that as well. I’ll be back for the next major music release from either Lauren or Camila, but until then, stream In Between.

Final Rating: 7/10

Final Ranking:

7. Trust Issues

6. Em(oceans)

5. In Between

4. Wolves

3. The One

2. Always Love

1. All in My Feelings

[tangled-wires-and-a-dead-heart]

I have two wolves inside of me: one of those wolves really wants to share my theories/speculations/analyses of scarlet hollow and the other wolf is my intense fear of being wrong and my self doubt that makes me think that no one else wants to hear my rambling.

[emisonme]

Hello Em. How are you? Do you still plan to analyse CXOXO? I do think the videos and performance calls for that even some songs have pretty good lyrics like Godspeed, hope you are planning to do that, I love your analysis. If you don’t mind can you please answer this question, do you think shawmila will come back? And do you think Camren is still together?(I am still confused about this, I think at times they are but then I hear cxoxo music and I think did they broke up? I don’t know, very confused about this) also when will Lauren release her album? Thank you!

I don't have the time to do the album analysis. Sorry about that. I haven't even had the time to watch all the visuals she has been releasing.

Camila herself said she didn't want to be with him anymore. Hopefully she sticks to her guns. She has publicly said she thinks they are better as friends, so right now, I choose to believe that she will avoid any future PR with him. But you never know. If a big gain is suggested to her, she could go for it again.

I have absolutely no idea when Lauren will release her album, sorry, again!!!

[stuckinapatriarchalbullshitland]

Hello, fellow CS. I am sending this message to most major CS blogs I could find on here.

I recently found out that Gaylors and larries are more organised than us and I believe we have legit proof of Camren being real in the past at least(2012-2021)

I need your help, let’s be united and make documents just like gaylors with all our proof. The proof could include anything, like a thread on twitter that debunks something, an analysis of MV/song, body language analysis , debunk post like Laucy 2.0 by Faby, pics, videos, etc(hope you guys got the gist) in short, anything that is useful and concrete.

I will also make a separate documents just for Showmila to debunk it(like it hasn’t been done already but still with every proof and inconsistency ever it will be easy af just to show the document if someone says it was real)

Are you guys interested? If so, I will make an email and you can send me your proofs and stuff there.

Thank you.

Hey buddy! Thanks for including my blog in your list and I am interested, at least with everything I have collected about Camren since 2018 which was the year I joined the fandom.

I know @fa-by has interesting posts, but I don't know if she's interested in doing a masterpost. @emisonme and @karlaswine blogs They are also good references for the fandom, but I don't know if they are available either.

Let me know when you get your email and I'll send you what I have on Camren.

[camrensrealbish]

Hello, fellow CS. I am sending this message to most major CS blogs I could find on here.

I recently found out that Gaylors and larries are more organised than us and I believe we have legit proof of Camren being real in the past at least(2012-2021)

I need your help, let’s be united and make documents just like gaylors with all our proof. The proof could include anything, like a thread on twitter that debunks something, an analysis of MV/song, body language analysis , debunk post like Laucy 2.0 by Faby, pics, videos, etc(hope you guys got the gist) in short, anything that is useful and concrete.

I will also make a separate documents just for Showmila to debunk it(like it hasn’t been done already but still with every proof and inconsistency ever it will be easy af just to show the document if someone says it was real)

Are you guys interested? If so, I will make an email and you can send me your proofs and stuff there.

Thank you.

Hey lovely

Thanks for reaching out. I don't have as much time as I used to when I started this blog when I was depressed during the pandemic 😅 and I'm not here as often as I used to.

My Masterpost is pretty up to date with all my posts on here. So feel free to use it if you'd like. I'm afraid I don't have time right now to compile anything else 😔. Karlaswine, emisonme are the OGs with lots of sources there.

I think that's a great idea and good luck!

[fa-by]

Hiiii babies and dear Anons 👋🏼🤗. I'm back with a new Q&A post. Before I start tho, two things:

1) I was unable to do the analyses of those three songs. I apologize to the Anons who asked for them, but I really didn't have the time. It already took me so long to answer these asks and if I'd done those analyses as well, who knows how long before you would've had this post. So, sorry 😅. I hope to be able to do them for the next post 🤞🏼.

2) This long wait was due to the fact that I had various commitments and then I also got ill (for something different from the past) by ending up in the hospital for a day 😭. I'm not healed yet so arm yourselves with patience for future posts as well 😅🙏🏼.

Now without having to still bore you with my problems, let's move on to the answers. Enjoy 🙃.

Your answers are here in my Only Told the Moon analysis.

Hi to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. The answer is no, and if you want to know more details, here is my Thinkin’ Bout One analysis (seventh ask).

Yeah, definitely. For years now and they'll continue to do that.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 pure invention from which they'll surely have taken their cue from fanfictions and which they've been trying to pass off as reality for years 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ups and downs, Anon, I hope your year is going much better than mine 😊.

Don't we all need Camren in our lives? 🤭 And yep, I'm back, but as I explained in the introduction, I've had commitments and I'm not well again at the moment 😭.

They still are now. They are real. And yeah, they'll eventually admit it. It will depend on their careers 💁🏻‍♀️.

Hello to you, my dear @lindy123​ 👋🏼😄. I hope you don't mind that I'm replying here instead of in the comments, and thank you so much for the kind words 🥰. As for Lo's unreleased songs, I obviously loved them 😍! I'm just sorry all 5 are incomplete 🥺 but oh well 🤷🏻‍♀️ she didn't intend to do that and that's why we have them now 😜. As for your question instead, the answer can be found in this old post: Unreleased songs - ɟ.

My dear Anon, from your welcome back I understand that you've read my past posts, and therefore you know perfectly well what I think of the so-called ‘insiders’ 🙄. I think I've already talked about it enough, but for those who are new to my blog, this is an example: https://fa-by.tumblr.com/post/659001741145243648/if-you-think-el-was-a-fan-account-then-how-do-you.

The signs are still there. Not as often as in the past, but they're still being given to us.

Don't doubt and don't fall into the traps of the bullshit people say. You said you think they're still together, and there must be a reason if you think that. So my advice is to keep using the smart part of you that distinguishes you from the herd of sheep 💪🏼.

Oh and, by the way, hello to you too 👋🏼😄 and thanks for the welcome back 😊.

You're not considering many other people, Anon. Camila and Dinah shared it with Hoko (Dinah's cousin) and the band (Ashlee Juno, Lauren Fuller, and Michelle “Michel'Le” Baptiste) while Ally, Normani, and Lauren shared it with some members of the tour crew; four if I'm not mistaken because the rest was in another bus. And inside both of the girls’ buses were purposely left empty sleeping places for when their family members joined them and stayed for a few tour dates.

And I know what you're thinking right now: why couldn't the band and those 4 tour crew members be in one bus and 5H + Hoko in the other one? Simple, that was their last year as a group and the narrative dictated the division between the girls. It was one of the many things that served to create speculation, draw even more attention, and sneakily get fans used to already seeing Mila as a solo artist and LAND as a group. As simple as that 💁🏻‍♀️.

Hey to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. And yes, of course. When I wrote “contracts can provide that two people who have already had a PR in the past can have it again in the future”, I meant it. But, and yes, there is a but.

Lauren's independent now, so I'm pretty sure that unless Tymbark's team requests it, it won't happen. Same with Luckless. Even more with her if that's why 🤣 because she has no team or labels to answer to and, even though she’s tried so many times (especially with her PR with Laur), she's not famous. Plus, that PR was made for Laur and therefore it would be up to her to request it again. And it's never gonna happen because she's luckily out of her life (unlike Sasha who, although not a celebrity, has been and still is a part of her life). Rather than have it with her again, I think Laur would rather have PRs with 100 different girls, whether famous or non-famous 🤣.

Have a good day too, dear Anon 🙃.

Are you the same Anon of the “happy 2023”?

Anyway. There's no way to know for sure. There are several factors to consider. How much notoriety does the artist have? Are they an A-list singer?  How much notoriety does the magazine have? Is it just an interview, or an interview + photoshoot? Is there anything else included in the interview to promote other than the music? Products/brands, feuds, relationships, future projects? It all depends on this and much more.

Like, for example. Is it an interview with a full fashion shoot plus high-level clothes and photographers? It already means that it's an important magazine and that the artist is considered as such and that was most likely wanted. Very important magazines such as are for example Vogue, Elle, and Vanity Fair, are themselves paying the artists and not the other way around. If that's why, in addition to the $100,000-plus earned, the artists receive free clothing, accessories, samples, make-up, and beauty products that they can keep as part of the shoot.

If, on the other hand, we're talking about less important magazines then it depends. (It always depends on the notoriety of the artist, but still.) If the interview is simple enough and the focus is on the music to be promoted, then it's very likely that the artist's team contacted and paid the magazine. Ditto if it's just an article without an interview.

If, on the other hand, there's something else to promote besides music, things change. But even here, it depends. What is this other thing to promote and how important is it? If it's not something really important that can generate lots of clicks, then it doesn't matter. But if it does matter, whether it's a scoop from a new love interest, or a feud with another celebrity, then it's the artists who get paid to release it.

For other types of magazines, however, it doesn't work that way. The mere presence of the artist on their web pages benefits them because fans or readers in general generate clicks. It's a double exposure for both artist and the magazine and therefore a win-win situation. No one pays anyone in this case because it's precisely a free double cross-publicity.

Hello to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄.

To answer your questions, well, none of the above. I want you to seriously think about something: if you had a one-on-one business meeting with your supervisor or directly with your boss, would you show up there with your significant other? I really don't think so. You have your meeting and after work, you call or meet directly with your significant other to tell them how it went. Period. That's the reality. Work is work, and you must know how to separate their work and their relationship because it runs exactly as it does for all of us.

Besides, although at the time Maverick managed the group for things related to the group as a whole, Mila was already personally managed by Roger, and therefore LAND and in this specific case Laur, was personally managed by Maverick. Both Roger and Maverick obviously answered to the labels because all labels always have the final decision on everything, but still, the point is that for personal things not related to 5H, Camren were managed by different people.

So as in the example of not bringing your significant other to meetings I gave you earlier, Mila wasn't present during Laur's PRs signings and agreements and vice versa.

I hope you're super well too 🙃 and to know more about how PRs work, read my PR stunt relationships - ɟ post.

[Faby oh my god I almost dropped my phone when I seen u posted 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣🤣 anyway hi not sure if u remember me but it’s me K 😂 sorry to hear u had not been well and to hear u lost ur dog I too lost my cat last yr she was 13yr and like u I felt like a part of me died with her she was my shadow. Glad to hear u adopted another dog thats the best way is to adopt.]

🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣 hi K! Of course I remember you 🤗! I'm so sorry about your cat 🥺😭, I completely understand. I like to think they'll always stay with us no matter what ❤. Why don't you adopt another one too? Trust me, it would help you a lot and you'd fall in love immediately like I did with my new puppy girl 🥰. Let me know😍.

1) [So with my question is what do u make of so many loyal CS and L’s fans leaving her? A lot has left bc of L’s attitude,how she constantly contradicts herself where fans weren’t able to defend her anymore and how she keep attacking CS.]

As you also said yourself, many got tired of both her behaviors and the fact that she keeps attacking CS. I've also seen that many people got tired of the fact of her sexualizing herself most of the time she posts something, or not going on tour in certain places, etc.

Honestly, all bullshit to me. You know why? Because Lauren has always been this way to the public! The thing that people don't understand, and for years now, is that this is the public image she's always had since they started training them back in the X-Factor days. And for those who don't know, by training them I mean how they started teaching them how to behave in front of cameras, how to answer or avoid certain questions during an interview, etc.

We've always had two Laurens. What's new? They still can't tell them apart? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Public imagine Lauren is the one who has to defend the PRs and attack Camren because she has contracts to comply with. She's the one who's been taught for years that sex sells, and she continues to use this tactic to publicize something simply because she's comfortable doing so. She's the one who has to act and say certain things because it's the only way to stay afloat in the industry, especially now more than ever because she's an independent artist.

The real Lauren, doesn't post much because she lives her life outside of social media. She's the one who started the first spontaneous and free Attunements during the pandemic. She's the one who can't go on world tours like she did when she was with 5H. How should she do it according to them? With what money? With the support of which major label? Do these people really have a hard time understanding the word independent? 🙄😒

Anyway, I still think that these so-called “fans”, which are anything but fans, drop out because things don't go the way they want. News flash, it never will! There's a person behind the artist who's constantly harassed every day and yes, even by those who don't deserve to be called CS. What do they expect her to do when the harassment on her body, her personality, and her life in general has been a daily occurrence for 11 years? For her to even thank them? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sure! And what does she actually do instead?: “Naturally inclined to love, but when the love ain't flowin' back, I pull away and reassess, gotta protect me. Push the negative to the side so it's not in front of my eyes, outta sight, outta mind. I need more than 50 feet”.

And in addition to 50 feet., there are songs like Inside, Colors, Scattered, Falling, Healing, EM(oceans), Wolves, Temporary and especially While I’m Alive that also talk about these situations. Hellooo??? No? Nothing? Don't they see i- 🤦🏻‍♀️okay...🤷🏻‍♀️

So, they don't wanna see the reality and go away? It's alright for me, and for her too honestly 🤣. Addio! Adiós! Au revoir! Sayonara! Adeus! Auf Wiedersehen! Do svidaniya! Go support someone who does what you want but that actually has so many faces that you won't even be able to recognize the real one 😉. *said in her voice like in that video when Trump lost the 2020 presidential election* Bah-bye, bitch 👋🏼!

2) [Another question is what do u except from C’s new label-]

I expect much more now 🤣. No jokes aside, I hope that with this new label she can return to the freedom and “glory” of 2017/2018. Unlike the past, I unfortunately still can't tell you what they'll do in my opinion or give you a theory simply because I don't know how they work yet. Ask me again after the first project 😏.

[-and now she changed pr firm?]

Mila didn't change PR firm/agency. She's still part of the WME Agency and you can also see it on Mila's official website itself. She simply also joined the BT PR Agency 😉.

3) [Why post that snippet of a new song with the line Coachella the. Deleted? I’m guessing it’s for the pr but that was desperate even for them. Is her new label the reason for the circus starting again or was it his team like last time or are they trying to make them as the new Justin and Selena?]

Yep, it was 100% just for the PR. And yes, desperate are the Sandalwood team 🥱. And yeah, they tried and tried to make them an important couple like Jelina, but in reality they only succeeded in making them the first fake couple to come up in Google image results when searching for pr relationships 🧐🙈🤣.

4) [What’s ur opinions on some fans claiming the Coachella stunt was nothing to do with their teams but C and L we’re arguing for awhile and C did it to get back at L? Personally I don’t believe that but still curious for ur thoughts]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh yeah? And who told them that? Lauren or Camila? Or both of them? Over text, call, or video call? 🤣. Do they really think people believe that? And above all, do they really think that (C&S) they’re free to do something like this without breaking the contract and without consequences from their teams and labels? I caaaan't! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣

My thoughts on this? Well, besides these ☝🏼 🤣, I feel sorry for all these people who do everything they can to get 5 min of attention and for those who believe it. But specifically, I'm ashamed to be associated in the same category (CS) as these, to quote Lauren, delusional people. Sorry not sorry 💁🏻‍♀️🙃😁.

5) [What are u expecting C’s new music to sound like?]

She experimented a lot with her music over the years, so I don't know if she'll continue to do that or settle on a specific genre. As I told you in point 2, I still don't know how this new label works, so I can't give you any answers yet.

[From that snippet she shared and how she working with yet another friend of his 🙄-]

Forget that snippet 🤣. She deleted it herself faster than light after a short time because it had its purpose for the Shitmilashow 😴.

[-my expectations have gone down to where I think it’s gonna be a full pr album or at least there gonna make it out to be.]

I don't think complete, but yeah, of course there'll be songs with phrases explicitly changed to imply that they're references to him, unfortunately for my and your ears. But oh well 🤷🏻‍♀️ I've been used to both of them and their PRs for years now.

[Anyway I know that was a lot of questions so I’m gonna leave it there for now 😂 but I have no idea how happy I am to see ur back specially with other blogs who left. I’m glad ur well and still a CS 😏😂 - K]

Don't worry, my dear K, you can always ask me for as many as you like 😄. I don't mind. I'm glad you're happy that I’m back and yes, I'm gonna be a real CS forever 😉. I hope you're well too 😊. A virtual hug 🤗.

‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍

Aaand I'm done 👅. Thank you all for your asks and I hope I've been helpful this time too 🙃. As usual, I'm always available for those who have questions, so ask away 😄.

Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Don't let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully 🙏🏼. Sending you virtual love and hugs 🤗🤗🤗. I love you, babies. Always with love, F ❤️.

[analisandocamrenpt]

Camila & Lauren + Flores

Eu quero antes de começar dizer que isso é apenas um pensamento que eu tive. Eu tenho certeza que esse post vai parecer bobo mas tenho consciência quando se trata de postar algo. 

Recentemente, ambas Lauren e Camila tem reblogado sobre flores. 

Como nós sabemos, cada flor tem um significado próprio. Exemplos: Rosas, Margaridas, Gardênias, etc...

Claro que tem uma possibilidade de que elas só reblogaram essas fotos porque gostaram. Eu não sei. Enfim, eu perguntei para alguém na minha universidade que está estudando floricultura para me ajudar nisso. Eu perguntei se flores em geral, não separadamente, tem um significado. Eu também contei um pouco da história das duas.

A resposta foi: "Pense nas flores como uma forma de simbolismo. Elas ajudam a expressar sentimentos que nós temos medo de dizer às vezes. No seu caso, parece que as flores simbolizam um despertar sexual ou florescimento da consciência, relacionado a sexualidade da mulher. Mas na maioria das vezes, todas as flores tem significados diferentes. No entanto, no passado quando o carinho não era permitido, todas as flores (em geral) eram uma forma de comunicação. Muitas pessoas hoje, embora, fazem seus próprios significados com uma flor ou uma cor que talvez possam lembrá-los de um evento ou momento especial em sua vida.”

Eu mostrei os posts delas e essa pessoa analisou.

Lauren:

Significado: Cuide de você mesma por mim.

Significado: Amor eterno, sigilo e silêncio.

Significado: Você é adorável, amor secreto

Significado: Felicidade perfeita, por favor acredite em mim.

Significado: Eu te amo, amor inconsciente.

Significado: Amor

Os reblogs de flores de Lauren estão centrados em amor e sigilo.

Os reblogs de flores de Camila estão centrados em “eu amo você mais do que qualquer pessoa”

Post original: https://sun-to-my-luna.tumblr.com/post/149265776542/theory-camren-flowers

[camrenanalysis]

the fact that the "priest" is a woman lmaooooooo

[omgitsahole]

So about the ‘Liar’ music video...

Well well well...  👀 👀  👀

If that didn’t speak for itself, the fact that Camila is literally dressed like a flamingo, another interesting thing about this scene is that when PR Fiance McDoucheface pops a bottle of champagne in celebration all the flamingos fly away

Possibly hinting how her awards and celebrations are very public, but her sexuality can’t be and both she and the people around her have to hide.

Camila sings “and no one sees it” and all the flamingos disappear... except for one, perhaps Taylor..(or Shawn)?  👀 

Now that all the flamingos are gone and her sexuality is hidden again, Sad Scrotum Sam shows her a jacket to wear, which looks oddly like the ones she wears on tour and in the public eye.

In conclusion:

Camren

[headlesshollis]

it’s data analysis time!!

so today i decided that it’s time to analyze some DATA. this may get a tad lengthy, but please just bear with me.

so first up, we have fifth harmony general search inquiries from 7.27.2012 to today (10.25.18).

as you can see, they don’t have the most consistent search inquiry history, but there was one thing that stood out to me. notice how 5H3 and camila’s departure are actually very very close? flop harmony never existed.

now, at first, i was just gonna leave it at that, but then i got a better idea. next, we have fifth harmony compared to camila.

camila’s popularity is actually pretty low compared to the group as a whole. yes, camlia was the most well-known out of the five of them before her departure, but she was actually never more popular than the group until the release of her album. personally, i found that incredibly fascinating (also, notice how her inquiries went up when 5H3 was released. that’s lowkey kinda funny lol).

so now, we’re moving on to our least favorite PR relationships. first up, PRren.

now, at first glance, ty has almost always been more popular than lauren. however, as you can see by what i’ve circled, lauren’s popularity skyrocketed when camila left. why? guess.

also, notice how ty is only popular when something that he’s featured on is released (i.e. psycho by post malone, ft. ty dolla sign).

next, ewmila.

this is the PERFECT example of a failed PR. i won’t lie, when i first saw this, i cackled.

finally, all our ships combined.

as you can see, nobody cares at all about mattmila. nobody cares in the slightest about tyren.

but.

search interest in camren has never gone below TWENTY FIVE. the stats don’t lie. maverick and epic are failing miserably at the one job they need to do. and guess what? they’ll never be successful.

congratulations to all my fellow camren shippers:

it is official.

we have won.

p.s. dear maverick, i would usually say “it really be like that sometimes”, but for you, “it really be like that all the time”. lol

(want to see the data for yourself? click here.)

[memezeira-fbi]

😂😂😂

[mazes-and-the-madness]

Hello, fellow CS. I am sending this message to most major CS blogs I could find on here.

I recently found out that Gaylors and larries are more organised than us and I believe we have legit proof of Camren being real in the past at least(2012-2021)

I need your help, let’s be united and make documents just like gaylors with all our proof. The proof could include anything, like a thread on twitter that debunks something, an analysis of MV/song, body language analysis , debunk post like Laucy 2.0 by Faby, pics, videos, etc(hope you guys got the gist) in short, anything that is useful and concrete.

I will also make a separate documents just for Showmila to debunk it(like it hasn’t been done already but still with every proof and inconsistency ever it will be easy af just to show the document if someone says it was real)

Are you guys interested? If so, I will make an email and you can send me your proofs and stuff there.

Thank you.

I can dig up my song analyses but fair warning, I just found out I have to move within the next 4-6 weeks so my life is in chaos and I might not be on here as much

[seulgeyah]

Beautiful Analysis

ok so let's start that the fact Camila used the The Stripper reference which is she's using a mask. Actually the mv was kind of a Cinderella and The Stripper feels because 1) Camila and Bazzi met at the bar

which is where Lauren and Camila 1st met at The Stripper. and 2) she's using a mask that looks like Lauren gave it to her in the story. Take a good look on this because i know for a fact that really looks like the one that Lauren gave it to her (in the story, of course)

and i know Camila is aware of that because we 're too crazy to keep it in us. and 3) this is where Camila removed her mask where Bazzi was finding her and desperately needed her which we know that Lauren on The Stripper desperately needed her and she couldn't wait to remove the mask of Karla.

and now... here is the last where which Camila and Bazzi finally saw each other and then Bazzi removed her mask... which we know that happened in The Stripper

and here's why i think it is kind of a mix of Cinderella. It's because at the end of the video they used the clock thingy where Cinderella was originally known for or commonly known, and we know that Camila had an unreleased song which is Cinderella. Idk about ya'll but do you think this is true or am i being delusional right now?

[playmaker0810]

Camila singing to herself in “In The Dark”

Okay i know Camila has been out for almost 6 months now and there’s PLENTY of song analysis of each of its track but i wanna share something that has bothered me one night driving back home after work listening to one specific track which is also my ultimate favorite in the album.

So, i’ve seen a lot of people having their take with In The Dark as Camila talking about somebody else which is not surprising since during her album release week last January, Camila stated that In The Dark is about “a guy she met at the after party at the Grammys that she low key flirted with and she’s curious to know who he was really seeing him from a far mingling with other people wanting to know who he is in the dark.” Nice narrative don’t you think? and i know a lot of cs were thinking that it’s really Lauren and not some guy bc she was there at the after party with the girls. That was my take before too bc with Lauren not being herself in front of the camera with the whole PR thing, that she’s change and a lot are really asking who is Lauren in the dark.

But after some time and a lot of listening later, something in my guts told me that Camila’s story behind in the dark is not really the reason why she wrote that song.

Then one night after driving back home from work, listening to In The Dark, i asked myself what if In The Dark was really Camila talking to herself?

Think about it for a sec.

We all know that Camila is very adamant and strong about preaching and sharing to her fans to be true to themselves and not let other people tell you to be something you’re not. This solidified for me when Never Be The Same Tour started. Y’all don’t know how shocked and really amused i was the moment Camila shared to the audience the real reason and message of the song In The Dark that it’s about you during your most vulnerable, raw, exposed time and being real and how it’s usually shown in the dark bc i knew in my guts that the grammys narrative was bullshit.

(i am not saying Camila lied but... she did LOL bc i high key think that her PR team want her to say that since you know they need to keep Camila’s straight image intact knowing that her self titled album, let’s be real, is gay af.)

ANYWAYS

So, after that speech during the NBTS tour, i was like yeah okay maybe my analysis for the song could be plausibly right like 70%. Then when Camila’s interview for Cosmopolitan came out, one answer was all it took to really 100% solidify my analysis for the song.

This:

Never Be The Same and In The Dark are the songs that meant most to Camila bc they were the ESSENCE OF HER.

When you say it is “an essence of you”, it means it is the intrinsic nature or the very core of you—the real you.

So In The Dark being the essence of Camila, it makes so much sense that the song is really about Camila.

Look at it in this perspective: picture the real core Camila talking to the surface public Camila while listening to In The Dark. It really makes the song even better and it makes it so personal and so deep.

If our assumptions are correct with Camila hiding her true self in the public or that she is still processing and getting to know herself more and accepting things about herself which is scary at times, i can’t reiterate it more how it makes so much sense with In The Dark being Camila talking to herself.

It’s true what they say that sometimes it’s hard and scary to even realize who you really are and i can speak for a lot of people who experience that fear of even accepting themselves or even just recognizing that they’re different from what society deemed as acceptable and the norm. And it takes a lot of courage and bravery to have that self realization to really know who you are and that mostly comes with you talking to yourself, encouraging yourself and telling yourself that it’s okay and that there’s no need to be afraid. Just like with the bridge of In The Dark:

“Darling, come on and let me in

Darling, all of the strangers are gone

They're gone

I said "Darling, come on and let me see"

Darling, I promise that I won't run”

Core Camila is assuring surface Camila that it’s okay. That it is okay to let the things you usually hide in the dark come to light. Just like what Camila said in her mini speech during the Reputation Tour, “I feel like in the dark that’s when you can really appreciate what shines.”

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So that’s that! I just need to share this with you bc In The Dark is such a masterpiece. I want people to give it a chance on seeing it on my perspective bc it really does makes A LOT of sense and makes the song even more impactful and beautiful. ❤️

Happy Pride everyone 🏳️‍🌈

[stuckinapatriarchalbullshitland]

Hey sis @ikkieme! This video remembered me to you. You were right when you told me that Camila got inspired by Indila’s music to make her music and I found a proof! 

I knew about this song before and it’s another one very gay to the management wishes but it’s crazy to know this kind of details. I’m still in love of Indila so know this makes me too damn happy.

The post is from  @camrlillaandcamrenshit but I didn’t found the account here and I wanted to make a reblog because her analysis is awesome. And yes, for once this youtube channel CP did something good.